June 2, 2010
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(updates) Some of my "Christian Delusion" prophecies come true
I'm hard at work on my "study guide" for Ed Babinski's well-executed chapter 5, "The Cosmology of the Bible." Stay tuned for that...
Meanwhile, since I've posted my criticisms of the first section of "The Christian Delusion", it seems three of my prophecies have come true:
1) Christian reviewer, Randal Rauser points out Dan Barker's baloney just like I did:Compare to what I said:Most of the atheists' comments on Rauser's post are extremely disappointing. So unnecessarily defensive. We could have been thanking this guy for having such a good attitude (that he's really going to need to get through chapters 1, 3, and 4), but instead we punish him for being sensible as though he misunderstood. It's so ridiculous.2) Christian reviewer, Paul Manata over on Triablogue manages to get himself "logically" stuck in Loftus' unwillingness to grant the possibility that some Christians might have converted for thoughtful reasons:
Compare to what I tediously laid out:...where I basically scolded Loftus for lingering after a certain point and not just pointing intellectual Christians to the intellectual battlefield of other arguments. Manata will probably never get over the mismatched quotes he was able to pluck from Loftus. Hence he'll be seeing the "lynch pin of the whole book, the fulcrum on which every other chapter does Christianity in" through those eyes. Good job!3) And Manata manages to cherry pick one particularly egregious misstep on Loftus' part:
...and use it to disregard everything else in The Christian Delusion just like I said Christians probably would:Obviously it's impossible to write a perfect book that deals with every objection, but that doesn't mean you carelessly throw Christians red meat while you are attempting to convince them they are delusional. Maybe I'll just take a magic marker and blot out those tidbits if I want to lend my copy out...
Ben
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@Andrea_TheNerd - Yay! Just what I wanted!
Before you write your review on Babinsky's chapter, you might want to
pick up something like Inventing
the Flat Earth by Russell. It is becoming quite well known in Christian
circles that there is no documented flat earth belief prior to
Washington Irving. Atheists would be wise to forget that they had ever
taught the flat earth myth!
@LooneyFundamentalist - Thanks for the heads up, but I've already read your post and investigated the claims.
Link
John
@Johnwloftus - Yeah, I saw that. I probably should have linked to it. Sorry.