September 7, 2009

  • (politics) Conservative Parent Goal Post Moving on Obama's Education Speech

    Intro:

    In formulating my previous post (link), I went looking for some disconfirmation in my conservative news RSS folder in google reader (I even have a packed folder for libertarian news!).  My question to myself was about whether or not Fox News was really selling the conservative overreaction to Obama's upcoming speech to kids on the importance of education exactly as I was afraid they were (or had been led to believe by the likes of MSNBC).  Turns out they weren't, but then again, they were.  Yes, it's complicated and stupid as human psychology often is.  So here are some videos I found and my commentary.

    We'll start with this video and here we see one concerned parent who actually bothered to look up what the actual agenda was.  That's great!  More than I hoped for.  However, apparently the lack of something objectionable didn't change anything surprisingly enough.  It looks like they've moved the goal post back to a civil disobedience issue with the forum itself and only the *suspicion* of future indoctrination.  This maintains the original outrage over sight unseen at a speech they admit there's probably nothing wrong with.  Don't liberals and progressives rightly get to say, WTF?


    In this video, we have a slice of the more "sensible" crazy parents asking for just a hall pass. Well, she's not more sensible, she's just more practical.  She seems to admit that it's purely an a priori trust issue that's been imposed on this speech uncritically.  She claims the President demonizes opponents, name calls Americans, and surrounds himself with criminals and thugs? Somehow me thinks her sources there are just as half-assed as the current issue is (link).  Also, apparently the voluntary nature of the pipeline to school children is dubious? Ugh...  They might have some kind of point if they weren't just making up the liberal fascism wholesale.  I've noticed the "fair and balanced" framework of the interview seems to be at the expense of really taking the people they interview to task for all their bs claims they get away with. 


    Lots of random thoughts here.  Watch the video below and read, plz.

    So, in response to Colmes, they move the goal post again and the issue is now framed with "overexposure" to maintain the "going after kids" non-issue. Surreal! Orwellian! Indoctrination! Obama, you're not allowed to do anything normal/innocent when people disagree with you about unrelated topics!  "Orwellian" must be the new catch phrase for "does anything I disagree with." 

    There will supposedly be something political because he can't help it. O rly? Projection!

    So we see the goal post moved again when she's corrected (by her own team no less) about Obama going after young and impressionable 6th graders.

    I love Colmes here.  His attitude is priceless.  I think I would be laughing my ass off, just because I couldn't believe the interview was really happening.

    Hey, they sung the praise songs to Obama without the brain implant chips, thankyouverymuch.

    Apparently to them, Obama has made it clear that all their base are belong to him, because of all the awkward things he's had to do to keep the economy from going over the edge.  Like his political ambitions really were about owning car companies!

    "All this nonsense" Laura wants to avoid with her 4 year old...she means that pro-education nonsense she admitted the speech was about? And posters! OMFG!  It seems at some level Laura was connecting with Colmes' incredulity and that she knows her side doesn't have much of anything to stand on. 

    So Obama can't do the Ramadan dinner just like Bush because he "apologizes for America." Yes, GASP, he's in touch with the reality America has faults (link) and we just can't tolerate reality's liberal bias. 


    Outro:

    So what I think these three videos clearly show is that A:  Even Republicans know they don't have an actual issue.  B.  Certain conservatives are unwilling to conduct themselves as mature adults and are totally willing to move the goal posts over and over again to maintain their original a-rational sense of outrage.  But we're all human right?  C.  This is completely an a priori trust related issue based on a hundred other misrepresentations of Obama in general that has nothing to do with the contents of the speech to kids on education.  Insert whatever spaghetti accusations that have stuck in their minds that Fox News has thrown against the proverbial wall in the past, and go from there.  Is there even a kernel of a real issue here?  I did find a libertarian article (link) that claimed it was unconstitutional for a President to speak to kids on education.  lol, geez.  Man, I hate defending school! 

    Ben

Comments (10)

  • Rofl. Gotta love how worked up some people get... Sheesh.

  • @SerenaDante - Yes, if only their smugness were pointed in an intelligent direction.

  • It has been so sad to see people take a benign yet positive issue--encouraging kids to stay in school--that could unify us and get a break from the heated debate on health care reform, and somehow stir up a storm of hysteria.  I cannot think of any more bizarre response to some simple action of the president in all my life.

  • Wish we could just ignore them and their reactive contempt for the President.

    Might as well go apeshit over Obama maybe advocating the use of bike helmets or being supportive of seat-belt laws or three square meals a day and withdrawing from that aspect of society because its supposedly part of his "leftist political agenda."

    Unfortunately, FOX has too much money and a veritable pipeline of human stupidity to draw from.

  • @bananaleaf_soapbox - It would be nice to know that we just had civil disagreements about certain issues, rather than everything being constantly shrill. 

    @runaheadofme - The bike helmet pics (or lack thereof) does seem like a much more worthy issue to complain about.  Why is it so easy for the Glenn Becks of the world to pull all these non-issues out of their arses?  It's no wonder they are constantly afraid of being censored by liberal fascism!  Maybe deep down, they know they are guilty?  hehe

    Ben

  • Watching clips like these is so completely frustrating that it is almost overwhelming. I felt the same way, frankly, when I was a conservative and saw the idiocy masked as concern from my own camp. I can't help but wonder if the outrage is staged, though, simply to sell the news. Of course, watching the movie "State of Play" last night contributes to that idea. I feel the same way about "reality TV"*.

    Dan

    * I mean, how much "reality" takes place when people are followed around with television cameras?

  • **bangs head against keyboard**

    when did it all go to shit?

    i think it's also a little sneaky to send up african american folks to help trumpet the conservative talking points, as if it validates the point more. I can't prove that they always prefer to do that when possible, but it seems that way to me.

  • @godgone - @GodAintGood - It's hard to tell the difference between extreme cherry picking and staged, isn't it?  

  • It's like homeopathy: the more diluted the socialist agenda to the point of not even existing in the speech, the stronger the memory of indoctrination affects the childrenz!  This is why people like my father (who urged me to read the first draft) are so concerned, not with what he actually says, but with what he might have said.

  • @Andrea_TheNerd - lmfao!

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