@artworkjanalee - Nothing specifically at the inauguration, but to set a precedence of working together on future items that will require more than just liberal support of various policies...Rick Warren would serve to help in that regard given his influence on conservative Christianity.  What if Obama surrounded himself with everyone that agreed with him thereby infuriating the Christian right even more and justifying all their predjudices?  Granted including everyone guarantees everyone will have someone to hate (if you hate someone), but that's Obama's stated policy.  To miss that is to miss a great deal of what the Obama adminstration will be about. We should get used to it or we shouldn't have voted for him (for those that did).  That's what's such a tragedy of Rachel Maddow, that's she's got all those sexy brains, but then ends up pointing them in such a bassawkwards direction.  What excuse is there for that?  I may be the only atheist that says Rick Warren is a good idea, but I must also be the only atheist that fucking listened to what Obama actually said in his campaign.  What angers me greatly is the needless divisiveness on top of the unavoidable divisiveness that people like Maddow will continue to pile on as though Obama doesn't already have his work cut out for him on the real issues that will be incrediblely delicate as it is.  It's nearly unforgivable.

Ben

@WAR_ON_ERROR - No, you're not (although technically I'm not an atheist).

I'm very liberal and very pro-GLBT.  But I agree with you.  I voted for Obama for this reason, that he would bring everyone into the fold.  I believe it was Rachel Maddow herself (either on her podcast or her show) who said that shortly after Warren was selected for the inauguration, his church's website took down something that said gays could not join his church if they were "unrepentent" (sp?).  She said, half joking, that this is what Obama does... he forces people into the spotlight, which makes them (both the loonies on the left and the loonies on the right) to come closer to the center lest they show the world their true colors and the world no longer takes them seriously.  I was surprised and dismayed when Rachel then turned around and blasted Warren.  I understand why she's angry (I'm angry too) but that isn't really going to get us anywhere. 

As I said in my post about this, Ghandi used Jesus' "turn the other cheek" to turn away an entire empire.  I think we should use the same method just to change a few hearts and minds.

@ithiliya - I'm glad I'm not the only one that paid attention.  Whew...  Warren seems to want to be respectable in the public eye.  Putting him up there with Obama, like you pointed out that Maddow said, is a good thing.  Is it really a good thing to leave conservative Christianity to its own devices?  I'm angered at the Christian bigotry just like everyone else, but that's what makes it all the more infuriating when someone like Maddow drops the ball on pointing her viewers towards long term progress. 

I just got back from watching the Spirit.  I liked it a lot, as well.  Frank Miller is something of an acquired taste, so I'll try to let the 15% rating it got on rotten tomatoes slide...eek. 

Ben

I watch Rachel rather regularly, and generally enjoy her program, but her coverage of Warren has been annoying!  SO WHAT that Obama asks Warren to do the invocation?  These people seem to say that you can't do anything with anyone who may disagree with you on any issue.  How can Obama live up to his promise to unite our nation and stop the petty political fighting if he doesn't do something like this?  I thought one of the reasons people liked Obama was this promise of his.  Yet the reaction on the Warren pick--from liberals who decry his views on homosexuality, to the conservatives who decry his acceptance because of Obama's views--is carrying on only more of the same petty fighting that I thought we elected Obama to help stop.  Kudos to Obama for this pick.  Thumbs down to Rachel and all the others making such a big fuss about this.

@ithiliya - I don't even want to read the reviews (I just glance at the percent on the RSS feed).  Too much of a drag. 

If you don't mind me asking, what did you hate about Wall-E?  I had some issues with it, but overall, I liked it.  

@ithiliya - I can see that.  I guess you had to be in the mood to just experience Wall-E's quaint solitude.  And I was, so it worked well enough for me.  

@ithiliya - lmao, touche'